tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post113393106352183291..comments2023-12-11T01:04:00.959-06:00Comments on I'm no Superman !: Blurred boundariesananthahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01130501107980414641noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134410956214794482005-12-12T12:09:00.000-06:002005-12-12T12:09:00.000-06:00http://www.desipundit.com/2005/12/09/punishing-the...http://www.desipundit.com/2005/12/09/punishing-the-victim/<BR/><BR/>Where i am ranting, finding not so good similarities between MSM and blogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134259936133046522005-12-10T18:12:00.000-06:002005-12-10T18:12:00.000-06:00?!: The people are CHOOSING to get their posts edi...?!: <I>The people are CHOOSING to get their posts edited. </I><BR/>I guess its the other way around. They are being chosen to get their posts edited. <BR/><I>If I pay an editor to edit, say, some poetry that I post, does it stop being MY post.</I> <BR/>In that case it does not, since you have the option of accepting your editor's work. But if he is paying you, he's the final authority. Do you see the difference? I don't have anything to go against the your other points, well except your last statement. :)ananthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01130501107980414641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134224342530162912005-12-10T08:19:00.000-06:002005-12-10T08:19:00.000-06:00Anti, this is getting semantic.The people are CHOO...Anti, this is getting semantic.<BR/><BR/>The people are CHOOSING to get their posts edited. If I pay an editor to edit, say, some poetry that I post, does it stop being MY post ? Some writing networks have paid/unpaid editorial help. Remains the author's work.They have the choice to get out if they don't like the revised version, right ? They stay, ergo it is their post.<BR/><BR/>Paying for a newspaper is not funding it. ( By a LONG shot. The price one pays for a paper wouldna get you the same quantity of white paper in Mumbai).Ads fund a paper. As far as choice is concerned, the consumer has a variety of newspapers to choose from. Blog post :(maybe) one subject. Blog : several posts. Newspaper article : (maybe) one subject. Several articles == a paper. Don't like an article, shut the page. <BR/>You pay directly to read a paper; you pay indirectly in terms of Cable TV charges to see BBC or Sun TV or Gemini.You do pay for reading a blog in terms of net access, just more indirectly.<BR/><BR/>Lotsa ads masqueradng as news.<BR/>Enough fakes masquerading as blog posts: IIPM's fake support network is a case in point. <BR/><BR/>Every media has an agenda. One's maybe overtly moneymaking. Other's might be more subtle money-oriented. Yet another's might be furtherance of a social/political point of view. <BR/><BR/>The point is, blogs == mostly unorganised media. MSM == organised biz model. Just as lack of organization is no guarantee of zero bias, an organized biz model is not necessarily slanted.<BR/><BR/>Since we rely on the media for news, we simply rely on our gut feel for perceived bias and try to read a few more sources to get a better picture. <BR/><BR/>Basically, I don't believe that blogs are an antithesis to MSM. They are two independent entities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134151341362628472005-12-09T12:02:00.000-06:002005-12-09T12:02:00.000-06:00?!: Understand where you are coming from. But this...?!: Understand where you are coming from. But this was not a anti-MSM rant. Not at all. This is a rant on "professional monitoring" of (what the site's owners/creaters describe) as "bloggers". <BR/><BR/><I>They are not on opposite sides of a moral or mental battlefield : they each occupy their own spaces.</I><BR/>Exactly. But I stand by my anti-thesis comment, because we have seen several cases where news-space has been sold and self-propagatory articles inserted in exchange for cash. So the boundaries bettween "advertisements" and news has blurred. And since most of people have been getting their news through the MSM, they have to put up with these so-called news articles that they don't need. But they do read them.<BR/>You might say that blogs are another form of advertisements, but atleast the consumer/reader has a choice. Several reasons - he/she does not pay for it and also a blog post is usually on one subject. And if that subject is not what the reader looks for, he might just close the window and get out.<BR/>DP carries ads from Yahoo, but Yahoo does not have any editorial control over DP. So unless Patrix and Co. hand over editorial control to the highest bidder who will impose editorial control, DP is and shall remain a blog.<BR/>So my definitions are this (am borrowing your words here)<BR/><I>The gent is funding a blog. Paying people to write. <B>Editing it</B></I> - MSM <BR/><I>The gent is funding a blog. Paying people to write and <B>edit their own posts.</B></I> - Blogananthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01130501107980414641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134150837920228822005-12-09T11:53:00.000-06:002005-12-09T11:53:00.000-06:00random thoughts: MSM bashing is another thing. I a...random thoughts: MSM bashing is another thing. I admit that i dont subscribe to the views of most of the bloggers who indulge in bashing MSM. organized media and citizen's media ( read blogs) are two different animals and they can co-exist. <BR/><BR/>if a blog portal - whatever that means - gets funding, the historical event within quotes, WILL sure find a place in one of the supposedly leading business newspaper. So i personally dont have any comments the newsreport or it's editors.<BR/><BR/>But in this case, what amuses me is that the audacity with which, these so-called bloggers, get a domain name, register, cut and paste articles, get some dubiously sounding organization to fund, hire a PR man to plant news in MSM and finaly make us to write on them. <BR/><BR/>The only thing they chose to forget is that, google tool bar with a search tool is only few hundred kilobytes and is compatible with most of the browsers :-) <BR/><BR/>these kind of exploitations should be exposed.Jayaprakash Sampathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07005287024175750371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134146031823863042005-12-09T10:33:00.000-06:002005-12-09T10:33:00.000-06:00"blogs seem to be the perfect antithesis to MSM" ...."blogs seem to be the perfect antithesis to MSM" ...<BR/><BR/>MSM bashing is one of the topics that bloggers seem to relish. MSM is not necessarily the evil antiblog idea. Blogs are not necessarily rants of the obscure and unorganised.<BR/><BR/>MSM exists to provide a structured framework for dissemination of a general perception we call news. It funds it by advertising openly. And by covert ads called bias. Blogs dealing with news exist to point out a different or personal perception.<BR/><BR/>They are not on opposite sides of a moral or mental battlefield : they each occupy their own spaces. When Desipundit.com carries ads by Yahoo, is Yahoo funding the blog ? By several yardsticks, Yahoo can be defined as part of MSM. Does that mean Desipundit can no longer qualify to be part of the blogosphere ? <BR/><BR/>The gent is funding a blog. Paying people to write. Editing it. Its credibility would depend on content and perceived bias of the articles. If he'd kept shut and just put an ad for tech writers/content writers and started posting it, would it have been better ?<BR/><BR/>Just some random thoughts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134100403167087812005-12-08T21:53:00.000-06:002005-12-08T21:53:00.000-06:00BB: Thanx :) The truth was out there. And in case,...BB: Thanx :) The truth was out there. And in case, I know why it was caused :)ananthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01130501107980414641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134098373153610892005-12-08T21:19:00.000-06:002005-12-08T21:19:00.000-06:00thanx for taking that in the right spirit anti. yo...thanx for taking that in the right spirit anti. yours is 1 of the blogs where the writing quality has been consistently high. so those typos kinda jumped out @ me :)Balajihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00263751007575981747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134059445407115422005-12-08T10:30:00.000-06:002005-12-08T10:30:00.000-06:00Hey Anti, sorry for such a big delay in replying t...Hey Anti, sorry for such a big delay in replying to your comment on my gmail post - i just saw it! <BR/><BR/>:(<BR/><BR/>listen, these links to the post page - you know how to make them conditional? that is, they should be there only if there is more (than the summary in the post page)Preronahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08873055320080221754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134015254860159032005-12-07T22:14:00.000-06:002005-12-07T22:14:00.000-06:00BB: Thanx thalaiva... one of the pitfalls of havin...BB: Thanx thalaiva... one of the pitfalls of having a really bad dialup connection (even here) is that you sometimes don't get a chance to do everything u want to. Nethu connection was a pain...and hence this embarrassment!ananthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01130501107980414641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134009438105838232005-12-07T20:37:00.000-06:002005-12-07T20:37:00.000-06:00"I too" (grammatical error totally intentional) - ..."I too" (grammatical error totally intentional) - what about the other typos(?) in the post? :) et tu anti?!Balajihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00263751007575981747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134002952534834132005-12-07T18:49:00.000-06:002005-12-07T18:49:00.000-06:00Kaps: Beats me...!Shankari: Thats my point. By sup...Kaps: Beats me...!<BR/><BR/>Shankari: Thats my point. By supervising, wouldn't we curtail creativity?<BR/><BR/>Thennavan: Ya.. I am waiting to see how they are gonna continue.. so its a wait and watch. But I see a contradiction in their definitions and though this sounds like high a funda concept, I basically think that they are trying to reinvent the wheel, whether or not they know it..ananthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01130501107980414641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1134001183963788842005-12-07T18:19:00.000-06:002005-12-07T18:19:00.000-06:00icarus prakash commented on my blog that they have...icarus prakash commented on my blog that they have copied their reviews from others....and I realized this myself after following the links provided by Prakash.<BR/><BR/>and what the hell is a blog PORTAL?Kapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18313844922683303787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1133977940573725132005-12-07T11:52:00.000-06:002005-12-07T11:52:00.000-06:00Went there today. Apart from the issues you raise...Went there today. Apart from the issues you raised, (GLAD u did!) it was pretty sweet and unremarkable bunch of kids...Shankarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693884980610429332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5037288.post-1133938001740033022005-12-07T00:46:00.000-06:002005-12-07T00:46:00.000-06:00I think you pretty much summed up in the last line...I think you pretty much summed up in the last line what it is :-)Krishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14039017773493094559noreply@blogger.com